Wednesday, December 31, 7000

Permanent Top Post by JM Talboo and Steve W.



By JM Talboo and Steve W.

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2008/10/debunking-myths-on-conspiracy-theories.htmlMany people subconsciously make the mistake of only seeing the issues concerning 9/11 in black and white, as opposed to shades of gray. This is known as the black-or-white fallacy. In this case, the false dilemma is: 9/11 was either carried out by Al-Qaeda or it was "an inside job."

Just because the evidence suggests that rogue elements of US and other international intelligence agencies were involved doesn't mean bin Laden and Al-Qaeda hijackers weren't involved.

In the fight to uncover the truth about 9/11 we must contend with individuals and groups that distort, omit and lie about important details in order to defend the official narrative - the 911 truth Debunkers.

 

The NORAD-stand-down, various whistleblowers, and physical evidence centered around the destruction of the 3 World Trade Center Buildings in New York, make a strong case that the attacks involved substantial inside help.

“I think it’s implausible to believe that 19 people, most of whom didn’t speak English, most of whom had never been in the United States before, many didn’t have a high school education, could have carried out such a complicated task without some support from within the United States” - 
Former Sen. Bob Graham on 60-Minutes 



We might be wrong about where we suspect this all leads, but the "debunkers" are wrong when many essentially argue that it's acceptable for 70% of 9/11 family members questions to have never been answered by the 9/11 Commission. So of course, most have no qualms about promises made to 9/11 family members being broken by the Commission to investigate all whistleblower claims, which a substantial amount of the public find highly-suspicious at minimum, with many regarding the evidence as suggestive of complicity to varied degrees.

The below link proves that many thousands of family members want a new investigation. Likely the amount of people killed that day is outnumbered by these 9/11 victim's family members.


[On the left side (above) is a video of WTC 7 collapsing. On the right side is a video of a controlled demolition.]


And it stands to reason, that these ilk feel the lack of air defense story is above scrutiny to the point that secrecy and rewards are warranted. So what if this tale consists of 3, or some contend 4, mutually contradictory versions of events and admitted lies. It makes perfect sense that the top officials from NORAD and the FAA received promotions, as opposed to having to provide documents with data that would prove that the jet fighters were acceptably responsive, given the past response time averages.


Unsurprisingly, they hate even the best of the "Loose Change" films, but loose ends are no biggie.

The Washington Post reported on August 2, 2006 that:
Suspicion of wrongdoing ran so deep that the 10-member commission, in a secret meeting at the end of its tenure in summer 2004, debated referring the matter to the Justice Department for criminal investigation, according to several commission sources... "We to this day don't know why NORAD [the North American Aerospace Command] told us what they told us," said Thomas H. Kean, the former New Jersey Republican governor who led the commission. 'It was just so far from the truth. . . . It's one of those loose ends that never got tied."
So, if 9/11 didn't have an inside element, what's to stop such a scenario from taking place in the future when we get investigations that have attributes like these? 

It is therefore the purpose of this website to rebut the hollow claims of the so-called 911 truth 'Debunkers' and clarify what is known about the attacks for the benefit of those following the debate and also for the largely uninformed public.

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Thursday, June 22, 2017

Hillary Clinton Did NOT Win Popular Vote... She Stole It - Electoral College Should NOT Be Abolished

Trump Vindicated? Study Shows Up To 5.7 Million Illegals Voted In Presidential Election.



12 Staffers At Dem-Linked Group Charged With Voter Fraud



5,500 Non-Citizens Discovered on Voter Rolls in Virginia



Exposed! Up to 2.1 million ILLEGAL votes were cast in electionA new study has added significant weight to President Donald Trump’s claims on mass voter fraud in the 2016 general election. 

EVIDENCE SUGGESTS TRUMP LOST POPULAR VOTE DUE TO FRAUD

[Exposed] Voter fraud uncovered in every state


REPORT: THREE MILLION VOTES IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION CAST BY ILLEGAL ALIENS Trump may have won popular vote


TRUMP: I WON POPULAR VOTE IF ILLEGAL VOTERS EXCLUDED


..."Donald Trump's new explanation for losing the popular vote? A Twitter-born conspiracy theory."
There are many more, too many to put here. Most follow the same theme: Trump foolishly followed the faulty analysis of Gregg Phillips of True The Vote, an online anti-voter-fraud site and app. Phillips estimates that illegals cast three million votes in the 2016 election. He's wrong, say the media. Heck, even the liberal fact-checking site FactCheck.org says so...
But there is evidence to back Trump's claims. A 2014 study in the online Electoral Studies Journal shows that in the 2008 and 2010 elections, illegal immigrant votes were in fact quite high...

Specifically, the authors say that illegals may have cast as many as 2.8 million votes in 2008 and 2010. That's a lot of votes. And when you consider the population of illegal inhabitants has only grown since then, it's not unreasonable to suppose that their vote has, too.

More:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2016/12/trump-is-right-millions-of-illegals.html


Hillary Clinton Did NOT Win Popular Vote..... by debunkerbuster




Mexican citizen caught voting five times



FORMER ICE AGENT BOLSTERS TRUMP’S CLAIM ABOUT ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS VOTING IN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Randy DeSoto for Western Journalism reports, A former Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent bolstered President-elect Donald Trump’s claim that large numbers of illegal immigrants likely voted in this year’s election. On Sunday, Trump tweeted in response to those holding up defeated Democrat Hillary Clinton’s lead of more than 2 million in the popular vote.



Proof Of Huge Democrat Election Fraud – Mail Returned, Votes Still Cast

Stan Vaughan was a candidate in Nevada’s assembly district 15, who has huge proof of fraud in his district. It’s the Democrat kind that involves falsified, non-existent voters who somehow still managed to cast votes. In 9,200 instances, the persons supposedly registered to vote don’t live at the address provided, as verified by Mr. Vaughan’s clever idea to send an individual piece of mail to registrations in which he had reasons to question their validity. Las Vegas, and the State of Nevada, at a minimum have a huge problem but it’s likely much larger than that. 

More:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2016/12/proof-of-huge-democrat-election-fraud.html

BACKFIRE! MICHIGAN RECOUNT SHOWING VOTER FRAUD AFTER ALL… FOR HILLARY

Now it is being reported out of Michigan that recounts actually show that in 392 out of 662 precincts that overwhelmingly favored Hillary — a whopping 59 percent — the number of ballots counted do not match what’s on the books.

More:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2016/12/backfire-michigan-recount-showing-voter.html

REVEALED: Michigan Recount Uncovers Serious Voter Fraud in Detroit- VOTES COUNTED UP TO 6 TIMES

VOTE FRAUD IN MICHIGAN FAVORED HILLARY CLINTON, NOT TRUMP


CALIFORNIA POLL WORKER CLAIMS MASSIVE VOTER IRREGULARITIES DURING 2016 ELECTION. NO ONE WILL LISTEN




Is Pennyslvania, The Amish, In Danger Still? = Terror Camp Coming ? - Guess who Just Bought Land In PA For ‘Learning’...and where did the money come from?

JM Talboo on this story 

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2017...





Did a Shell Company for a Terrorist Cell Just... by debunkerbuster

mel faulkner 3 days ago 

After looking up Hira, would not be surprised one bit if it is found to be a terrorist group front.

mel faulkner 2 days ago
It is a very odd company, one employee and seems to be selling cell phones and internet packages. Looks like a front company of some kind to me.

Robert McCartney 1 day ago 

It wouldn't surprise me if it was a shell company for a terrorist cell.

Rick Gross
I hope,,for their sake,,it isn't going to be like the place in new york...no one is allowed on the property unless your a muslim...and it is a traing camp ...the higher ups in new york know this but turn their heads.....I think the american are going to have to take control of this country..because the politicans have all joined the other side and were doomed..unless we take control now...


Muslim purchase of a 143-acre youth education facility in Pennsylvania has locals on the warpath:

http://powderedwigsociety.com/muslim-school/

Petition Stop sale of YDC to Hira Educational Services:

http://www.cccwp.us/petitions/

The Sound of Muslims:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJdu4HV-Ng

Wednesday, June 21, 2017

Colonel Shaffer Warns Of A Bloody Civil War



Michael Savage talks left wing violence by debunkerbuster
America's Next Civil War - Progressives vs... by debunkerbuster


Counter-terrorism Operation Able Danger 
Identified Several of the 9/11 Terrorists a Year Before 9/11


In 2005 it was revealed that five witnesses described as credible by the Pentagon asserted that a pre-9/11 counter-terrorism operation named Able Danger had discovered several of the 9/11 terrorists a full year before the 9/11 attacks. Their story could not be corroborated by computer records related to the operation because, as Major Eric Kleinsmith testified, he was ordered to destroy the information. "Debunkers" apparently do not find this suspicious, having argued that since Able Danger used open source data mining, proof that the project identified lead hijacker Mohammed Atta and connected him to a terrorist cell should have showed up in the press prior to 9/11. However, the project did not rely on open sources alone, but rather used data mining techniques to associate open source information with classified information.

The following excerpt from the Fox News article "Third Source Backs 'Able Danger' Claims About Atta" makes it clear that Atta was not identified by open source material alone:
J.D. Smith, a defense contractor who claims he worked on the technical side of the unit, code-named "Able Danger"... said data was gathered from a variety of sources, including about 30 or 40 individuals. He said they all had strong Middle Eastern connections and were paid for their information. Smith said Able Danger's photo of Atta was obtained from overseas.
An August 22, 2005 article on freerepublic.com explains that one of the reasons why the 9/11 Commission dismissed Able Danger is their timeline for Atta's arrival in the US was incorrect, having him arrive at least several months too early. However, the article notes that The Able Danger team could have "identified the cell overseas before they traveled to the US" or that the 9/11 Commission "got their timeline wrong."

As to the first possibility, Atta he could very well have been identified before he even came to America, because as the New York Times reported on February 24, 2004, before arriving in the U.S., Atta's room mate Marwan al-Shehhi was under surveillance by German intelligence who passed along his first name and telephone number to the CIA. The excuse that the "United States... failed to pursue the lead aggressively" aside, this story lends credence to the idea that both Atta and al-Shehhi were known about before ever arriving in America.

Regarding the second possibility that the 9/11 Commission "got their timeline wrong," the freerepublic.com article notes that "it appears that all of the information that the Commission used to establish travel timelines for the Atta cell came from interrogations... of two co-conspirators with plenty of motivation to mislead American investigators." One of these co-conspirators, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, stated that he "gave a lot of false information" and "made up stories" due to torture inflicted by his CIA interrogators. Later it was revealed that Mohammed confessed to attacking a bank established only after his arrest.

These co-conspirators lying seems a far better possibility than the noted least plausible alternative summarized on the freerepublic.com article, that the Able Danger members "all lied, and went out of their way to lie to the Commission not once but several times, despite the Pentagon themselves... noting the 'respected' service of the two officers."

In September 2009 Lieutenant colonel Anthony Shaffer wrote the following regarding his involvement in Able Danger:
I endorse the NYC CAN campaign and support the need for a new, independent, investigation of the events and failures that lead up to the 9/11 attacks.

The original 9/11 Commission inquiry became an exercise in bureaucratic ass-covering and obfuscation of accountability.

I had no intention of joining the ranks of “whistle blowers”. In 2003, when I made my disclosure to the 9/11 commission regarding the existence of a pre 9/11 offensive counter-terrorism operation that had discovered several of the 9/11 terrorists a full year before the 9/11 attacks my intention was to simply tell the truth, and fulfill my oath of office.

Unfortunately, this was a minority view.

Instead of supporting the search for the truth, members of the Bush/Rumsfeld Department of Defense did everything within their power to destroy my 20 year career as a clandestine intelligence operative simply to try to discredit me and my disclosure.

In 2006 I testified before Congress on the pre-9/11 issues regarding the systemic failures I was personally aware of – in both open and closed sessions – and yet nothing was ever done to correct these problems.

The families and victims of the 9/11 attacks are owed a real accounting of why their government failed them. We all deserve answers.

The full accounting has never been made. This accounting is long overdue. I hope the NYC CAN effort will result in a real, detailed, independent investigation that will reveal the full truth – whatever that truth may be.

Tony Shaffer

Tuesday, June 20, 2017

University forensics report into Seth Rich states it was likely a professional hit - SETH RICH INVESTIGATOR ROD WHEELER STATES HE NEVER BACKTRACKED ON WIKILEAKS CLAIM: Thomas Interview



BREAKING: New Report Suggests Seth Rich Murder Not Robbery, Possible “Hired Killer”




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SETH RICH LINK TO WIKILEAKS CONFIRMED BY DNC CROWDSTRIKE BACKTRACKING RUSSIAN HACKING CLAIMS - Breaking: New Connections Made In Seth Rich Murder Case:

http://trumpisright.blogspot.com/2017/05/seth-rich-link-to-wikileaks-confirmed.html

KIM DOTCOM DESTROYS U.S. MEDIA REGARDING SETH RICH COVER UP: Seth Rich Was WikiLeaks Source:

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2017/05/kim-dotcom-destroys-us-media-regarding.html

HNN: Debunking The Corporate Media's Coverage Of The Seth Rich Story - Kim Dotcom Offers Congress Evidence to Prove Seth Rich Was Wikileaks Source:

http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2017/05/hnn-debunking-corporate-medias-coverage.html

Correction: The Rich family has actually implied Kim.com is lying, but that doesn't answer this question as posed by H.A. Goodman:

So… how was Kim Dotcom able to predict WikiLeaks DNC emails in 2015???  #SethRich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbu-OiWXllw&t=25s
"Julian Assange is going to be Hillary Clinton's worst nightmare" - Kim Dotcom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDewq6ZffNs